I changed my mind and now I know for sure John the Baptist is Elijah in Malachi 4:5.
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Elijah in Malachi 4:5 is the Body of Christ=all of God's elects.
Don't be prideful of that verse, be humble. Be like a voice like John the Baptist.
1/15/13, 8:00pm I prayed to God to help me understand who Elijah is in Malachi 4:5, like a desperate person. Then on 1/16/13 12:48am, he led me to read Malachi 3:1-3 which talked about John the Baptist and on the footnotes that led to a load of verses. Then he led me to Malachi 4:1-6 and on the footnotes that led to a load of verses. All credit goes to God, I could not have understood who Elijah was without God's help.
John the Baptist is in Malachi 3:1-3 and he is the forerunner of Jesus Christ’s 1st coming.
Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, Matthew 11:10, Mark 1:2-8, Luke 7:26-28, Luke 1:76
Elijah= God’s elects are in Malachi 4:1-6 and are the forerunners of Jesus Christ’s 2nd coming.
When you compare Malachi 4:5 with Joel 2:28-31 and Acts 2:16-20 it like the exact words.
Malachi 4:5
King James Version (KJV)
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
Joel 2:31
King James Version (KJV)
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
King James Version (KJV)
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
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1/16/13 10:00pm
Sorry everyone.
After I looked at the videos at the bottom, I changed my mind and now am sure John the Baptist is Elijah in Malachi 4:5.
65-67 John the Baptist - Saint or Sinner ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e47Rh4WBVG0
66 Did people believe Jesus or John the Baptist ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arbMoGz7EyQ
65 Did John the Baptist follow Jesus ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltg5jaLOfEM
THE COMING OF ELIJAH! IS IT PAST OR FUTURE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMp401RDE6M
This video should sort out things.
When Does Elijah Come? (Mark 9:9-13) John MacArthur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1_gCp_TgIU
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1/16/13 10:00pm
Sorry everyone.
After I looked at the videos at the bottom, I changed my mind and now am sure John the Baptist is Elijah in Malachi 4:5.
65-67 John the Baptist - Saint or Sinner ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e47Rh4WBVG0
66 Did people believe Jesus or John the Baptist ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arbMoGz7EyQ
65 Did John the Baptist follow Jesus ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltg5jaLOfEM
THE COMING OF ELIJAH! IS IT PAST OR FUTURE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMp401RDE6M
John 1:29-34
King James Version (KJV)
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
This video should sort out things.
When Does Elijah Come? (Mark 9:9-13) John MacArthur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1_gCp_TgIU
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http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/bible/was_john_the_baptist_elijah.shtml
Was John The Baptist Elijah
by Tony Warren
There is a doctrine being taught today that postulates that the prophesy of Elijah's coming before Christ, was not totally (if at all) fulfilled by John the Baptist. There are many who maintain that the actual reincarnated personage of Elijah must literally return to earth from Heaven to turn the hearts of the Israelites and prepare the way for Christ. They insist that this is the only way that the Old Testament prophesy can be fulfilled literally. But this postulation is tortuous of the clear declarations of scripture. Taken to it's logical conclusion, such an interpretative understanding would also mean that because prophecy declared he would "make straight in the desert a highway," he must also come and literally be a highway construction worker. Needless to say, this type of literalistic exegesis is illogical, unbiblical and totally inconsistent throughout. And inconsistency is the hallmark of error. There are other groups who understand the inconsistency in this reasoning, and so take another path by teaching that it has to be a double fulfillment. In other words, where it's undoubtedly true that John the Baptist fulfilled the prophesy "somewhat," but that it has a greater fulfillment by being literally fulfilled before the Second Advent. They believe that it was partially fulfilled as a pattern, but will be fulfilled in it's best sense in the future. The objective of this Bible study is to take a careful look at the passages in question, to see if there is really any Biblical validation or support for such eschatological teachings. We start with the often quoted verse of Matthew chapter seventeen, in which the Apostles questioned Christ on why the Jewish leaders were insisting that Elijad had to come before the Christ. First not that Christ affirms that the question was valid, and says that Elias (Elijah) truly must come first and restore all things. Many people point to this verse in the belief that it means that Elijah hasn't come yet. They retort, "else why would Jesus say he shall come first?" However, to accept that position we have to completely ignore the context, and the very next verse, in which Jesus explains his comment: Matthew 17:11-12
- "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
- But I say unto you that Elijah is come already and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatever they listed."
These teachers who claim that it hasn't been fulfilled are ignoring the fact that if verse eleven means Elijah is to come in the future, then verse twelve saying he (not someone else) had come already, is a totally illogical and contradictory statement. That would be like an architect saying, "Yes it's true that the building plans must be drawn up before the construction can commence. And I'm here to tell you, the plans have already been drawn up, and you just didn't see them." In response, would you retort that this means that plans will be drawn up sometime in the future? Of couse not. Because that would make no sense whatsoever, considering what the architect himself had said. Likewise, this theory of the prophesy of Elijah coming first--later, while still having already come first as Christ testified in this prophesy, makes no sense. The primary rule when studying scripture is that we cannot build a doctrine upon one single verse, while ignoring all others. A sound exegesis involves taking ALL of the scriptures (in context) that have bearing upon the question, into account. doing this, we must make sure that they are in harmony with each other. scripture doesn't contradict itself. The fact is, scripture clearly tells us that John the Baptist was he that was prophesied to come. Isaiah prophesied of the time of Christ, and John was he of whom Isaiah prophesied. Consider wisely what Christ "Himself" declared of the prophesy. Matthew 3:3
- "For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The Voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make His paths straight."
Luke 3:3
- "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
- as it was written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The Voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
Isaiah 40:1
- "Comfort ye, Comfort ye My people, saith your God.
- Speak comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for her sins.
- The Voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God."
Mark 1:2
- "As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send My messenger before Thy face, which shall prepare Thy way before Thee.
- The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make His paths straight."
Romans 11:34
- "For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?"
Another objection to John being Elijah that these teachers use, is that they protest that John the Baptist himself said that he was not Elijah. John 1:21
- "And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No."
As has been effectively demonstrated by scripture, the problem with Premillennial eschatology is that it's theologians expect everything to be fulfilled in a literalistic worldly fashion. But God wants His people to worship Him in Spirit and truth, with wisdom to compare the spiritual things with Spiritual things (1st Corinthians 2:13) to come to true discernment of scripture. When we look at the Old Testament prophesies of his coming, we read (Isaiah 40:1) "Comfort ye Jerusalem, her warfare is accomplished, her iniquity is pardoned." Can we read that as a literal city with iniquity pardoned, worldly wars ended where the city is at peace? Of course not. At least, not according to the authority of scripture. True wisdom is in comparing spiritual things with the Spiritual, where we see that God tells us this prophesy was fulfilled with the coming of Christ. How? Because He was the Prince of Peace who brought Peace on earth (as the Angels proclaimed) that Jerusalem's warfare "with God" was ended. Only in Christ was iniquity pardoned and man made at peace with God. The same with Isaiah's prophesy of Elijah making the highway in the desert straight that was crooked. Was that a prophesy of a literal highway also? Is Elijah or John prophesied to be a literal highway construction worker who was destined to measure and straighten roads in the desert? Again, the obvious answer is, of course not. The spiritual picture God paints here in using imagery of crooked highways is in illustrating John would come to make things right. To set things straight in a perverse land, not to literally be fixing crooked roads. Making our paths straight has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with literal highways. But making our spiritual paths straight is "likened unto" making a crooked highway straight. So what in the world would make the Premillennial theologians believe that in the midst of all this prophesy using spiritual imagery by the Lord, that He would insert Elijah to come back to earth literally? That's the way man thinks. That's the way the world thinks. That's the way man teaches. But it is not prophesy understood in the wisdom of the Holy Spirit. 1st Corinthians 2:13
- "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual."
Luke 1:17
- "And he shall go before Him in the SPIRIT and POWER of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people Prepared for the Lord."
John 1:22-23
- "Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?
- He said, I AM THE VOICE of one crying in the wilderness, make straight the way of the Lord, As said The Prophet Esaias."
Unfortunately, sometimes it seems the more scripture you give showing this, the more some seem to deny it, or to claim that it doesn't "really" mean this. One theologian declared, "the truth is, John the Baptist was not the Elijah yet to come, but he was the Elijah for the spiritual kingdom then being ushered in." The logical translation of this is that He was Elijah of prophesy, but he wasn't Elijah of prophesy. If that sounds nonsensical, it is. Because if John wasn't the "Elijah yet to come," then why did Jesus say that he was. Jesus said, "this is he" that was spoken of in the prophesy of Isaiah. And if He wasn't the Elijah prophesied, why does scripture continually say that he was? It makes no sense because it's all just rationalization by the proponents of Premillennialism. All of the scriptures that I have borne witness to clearly say that John indeed was Elijah of prophesy. They aren't really ambiguous, they aren't mysterious, and they aren't hard to understand. Not only that He "was" Elijah, but that He was the same Elijah prophesied in scripture to come. The very same Elijah that Isaiah prophesied about. But only for those who would RECEIVE it. For even in those days, Christ knew, and wanted us to know, that the heart of man is not to receive the love of truth in the Word of God. Matthew 11:13
- "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
- And if you will Receive it, this Is Elijah, which was for to come."
....Because He Knows there are those who WON'T! Why would "man" not believe John was this Elijah, and believe that this must be fulfilled in the future? ..because he will not receive it. John the Baptist was not a reincarnation of Elijah, nor does the scriptures teach such views as reincarnation. Was The Prophesy of Elijah's Coming before Christ fulfilled? Indeed it was. For John was the fulfillment of the prophecy because he came before Christ to minister in the same Spirit and the same power that Elijah did. There is no contradiction.
Copyright ©1996 Tony Warren
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The kingdom of God=kingdom of Heaven came when Jesus sat down at the right hand of God and during the Day of Pentecost when the apostles received the Holy Spirit. That is when the 1000 years started.
More information is on the video at the bottom.
Missing Messages In Today's Christianity - 13.Three Radical Prophets - John The Baptist - Zac Poonen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwzVD-8MjkM&list=FL1Ljg2g4VFJLx9mfF6fbHxQ&index=84
Video=30:25-33:15
Mark 9:1=Acts 1
John 18:36
King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
The kingdom of God =1000 years in Revelations is not a physical kingdom, it is a spiritual kingdom.
More information is on the bottom links.
Dispensationalism,
is the rapture Biblical? - Tim Conway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPLl6BL-Glo
Amillennialism: the kingdom of heaven is at hand!
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